Bendis on Cancelling X-Men Titles

[Le Messor]

You're the only one that's used the word stupid though.

He never said those things were stupid - only that they sounded that way on the surface.

The X-titles won't be cancelled.
Changed, is a possibility; and I've never disagreed with that.

Agreed.
Mutatis mutandis... or something. Mutancy is about change.

Well, isn't it possible that Marvel has come up with a plan of action that has some big cosmic character coming along, The Collector or The High Evolutionary or Thanos, or whomever, and this character then reveals that "mutants" were never any such thing.

Hasn't this already happened? Aren't they the result of Celestial tampering?

Marvel doesn't make much money on comics, they are MUCH more concerned with movies and other merchandising where they make the real bucks.

"Moichandising! Moichandising! Where the real money for the film is made!"
~ Yogurt

It may not make sense from a comics viewpoint, but from a Financial viewpoint, big-picture?

I've never known Marvel (or DC, for that matter) to be big-picture thinkers.

~ Le Messor
Dr Evil: "We punch a hole in what I call" (air quotes) "the Ozone layer."
#2: (cough) "Sir... That, too, has already happened."

[Tawmis]

We haven't seen that at all.
The Phoenix Force and Hope Summers un-did Scarlett Witch's hex at the end of AvX.
The Terrigan Mist had absolutely nothing to do with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrigen_Mist

It is also shown in this series that depowered mutants, if exposed to the Terrigen Mists, gain an uncontrollable version of their former powers. For example, the Mists restore the hyperacute senses of Callisto, but all the amplified stimuli cause her to fall into a coma. However, the effect is only temporary as powers fade after a short while. As shown with Quicksilver, the bodies of those exposed to the mists for extensive periods begin to produce their own Terrigen Crystals with the same mutagenic effects. At the end of the Son of M series, the U.S. government confiscates the Terrigen Crystals dropped by Quicksilver, which leads Black Bolt to declare war on the United States.

[Phil]

Emphasis on the temporary part.
And even then, that wasn't 'many'
Plus:

Use on X-Cell depowered mutants provided moments of renewed powers but then caused them to explode

Plus that was 8 years ago.

[Tawmis]

Emphasis on the temporary part. And even then, that wasn't 'many'
Plus that was 8 years ago.

It was temporary, sure. But if you're saying "It was 8 years ago..."
Can I just bring up Vulcan? The third Summers brother (ugh).
And what they did with Giant Size X-Men #1, which was over 30 years ago?
Or Bucky to Winter Soldier?
Marvel has no problem jumping back to reference some event many years ago.
And make it work for some random event.

[Phil]

Sorry, my fault for not explaining myself.

I mean that since that storyline 8 years ago, they have undone the Scarlet Witch's 'No More Mutants' without the 'Mists and destroyed all the Terrigan Crystals with the Terrigan Bomb, dissipating all the remaining mists into the Earths atmosphere, so there are no more mists.

Currently anyway. I'm sure it'll be changed in an equal amount of years.

[Flightpath07]

Look, I'll just say this, and then sit back and let this thread go into oblivion, before I get too frustrated (what can i say? i write passionately.).

All I am trying to do here is cause people to see that there is more than one way of looking at this. - Ironically, i thought Phil would be the one to do this, since he always plays devils' advocate. Further ironically, Phil has been the greatest detractor of what i am saying, when i thought he would be the detractor of this threads' detractors, and... *head explodes*

There's people here Insisting that any significant change to X-Titles won't happen. People are fans of certain books, I get it; they're passionate about books, creators, and characters. Which often means they don't think as rationally as they ought to, however. Words like Ludicrous, and No WAY (two words, but you see what i am getting at) have been tossed around, and i encapsulated those phrases and passionate words into the word Stupid, for which i now apologize as that seems to have gotten some people's gruff - to me, that was a way of summing up words and feelings, i saw people as thinking this whole idea of change coming to X-Titles, and mutants (or X books) possibly being cancelled/stopped/momentarily-ceased/completely-changed, whatever, by Marvel, as being a Stupid idea, as in, Not Going To Ever Happen.

From there on, my only point was to point out that this wasn't as stupid or as unlikely as some people seem to think.

Whether you agree or not...meh, people are people, we all have our own opinions. To me, it makes no friggin' difference what Marvel does, I don't care if they make Iron Man a cross-dresser or if they put Deadpool in Star Wars comics. I Don't Care, because I don't regularly buy any Marvel products. Which means, as a Not Fanboy, I tend to look at things differently. I'm not campaigning for these changes in Marvel, because i don't care, I have absolutely no vested interest in any of this.

Again, i don't care so much what your opinions are, we are all different and that is good. But there is no point in stirring this conversation up anymore, people just seem to be getting upset, so it isn't worth it.

Peace.

[Phil]

(what can i say? i write passionately.)

Always a good thing.

Ironically, i thought Phil would be the one to do this, since he always plays devils' advocate.

When it's based on fact, not the speculation of one anonymous poster.

Further ironically, Phil has been the greatest detractor of what i am saying

Not on purpose, I promise.

There's people here Insisting that any significant change to X-Titles won't happen.

Speaking personally I haven't done that.
I fully agree 100% with you that there will be significant change and soon.
Just not a complete cancellation - as the anonymous poster put and Bendis referenced, as seen in the thread title.
Had the word 'Cancelling' not been used I'd possibly never have posted in this thread.

People are fans of certain books, I get it; they're passionate about books, creators, and characters.

That's the thing; I wouldn't be especially bothered if they did cancel all the X-books; I'd just read something else instead.

Which often means they don't think as rationally as they ought to, however.

Here's where I disagree; my points are completely rational as they're financial based and I'm looking at them from the point of a profit making company.
You have mentioned that you write with passion, and there are times when your passion appears to be taking pleasure in Marvel's downfall. That may not be the case in the slightest but it sometimes comes across that way, in many threads.
Then again I probably come across as a heartless corporate robot; them's the breaks.

Words like Ludicrous, and No WAY (two words, but you see what i am getting at) have been tossed around, and i encapsulated those phrases and passionate words into the word Stupid, for which i now apologize as that seems to have gotten some people's gruff - to me, that was a way of summing up words and feelings

Ludicrous and No Way were both mine, and again meant from a financial position.
If I misunderstood your use of stupid that's my issue and certainly not one for you to apologize for.

i saw people as thinking this whole idea of change coming to X-Titles, and mutants (or X books) possibly being cancelled/stopped/momentarily-ceased/completely-changed, whatever, by Marvel, as being a Stupid idea, as in, Not Going To Ever Happen.

Again, had it just ended at changed I could have agreed with you.

To me, it makes no friggin' difference what Marvel does

The problem is that it clearly does.

I don't care if they make Iron Man a cross-dresser or if they put Deadpool in Star Wars comics. I Don't Care, because I don't regularly buy any Marvel products. Which means, as a Not Fanboy, I tend to look at things differently. I'm not campaigning for these changes in Marvel, because i don't care, I have absolutely no vested interest in any of this.

If you don't have a horse in the race then why are you always betting?
You clearly do care and you clearly are a fanboy (in a non-derogatory way that covers all of us here, myself included) if only because you WANT to enjoy what Marvel puts out and you WANT to care, if only out of nostalgia for what Marvel used to be and could/should be today.
Whenever Marvel does something stupid, and they do - I'm in no way saying they're perfect, you're the first person to be calling for Marvel's head on a chopping block.
Like it or not that's caring.
If you didn't care you wouldn't have an opinion.
If you had no interest in Marvel at all you wouldn't post the things you do.

Again, i don't care so much what your opinions are, we are all different and that is good. But there is no point in stirring this conversation up anymore, people just seem to be getting upset, so it isn't worth it.

Well if at any point I've given the impression I'm upset I apologize, that's genuinely not the case.

Peace.

Always bro, always.

[MistressMerr]

Well, I guess that's the end of that.

[Mokole]

Marvel has made mistakes in the past, like making Sasquatch a mutant, Puck, both avoiding Sentinels who can detect the x-factor, which neither character has.

[Phil]

Marvel has made mistakes in the past, like making Sasquatch a mutant, Puck, both avoiding Sentinels who can detect the x-factor, which neither character has.

That's the thing.

Take when Northstar & Aurora became elves rather than mutants.
How stupid was that?
How annoyed were we all?

Imagine that times hundreds of thousands.

That's what would happen if Marvel made every mutant an Inhuman.
Sales would drop.

Let's flip it:-

Sasquatch, Shaman, Snowbird are suddenly Inhumans or Mutants.
How would you all feel about that?

[Le Messor]

That's the thing.

No, that's the Thing:

Phil, you should know this!

Imagine that times hundreds of thousands.

We'd have a geek revolution on our hands! Almost as bad as the time the Picard / Kirk factions declared open battle; or the Leia and Han people went on a mass migration.

Sasquatch, Shaman, Snowbird are suddenly Inhumans or Mutants.
How would you all feel about that?

About how we felt when the twins became elves. Or when Sas DID become a mutant! A wolf mutant. (Thanks, Loeb.)

~ Le Messor
George Takei: You see, the show was banned after the Star Trek wars.
Captain Zapp Brannigan: You mean the mass migration of Star Wars fans?
Nichelle Nichols: No, that was the Star Wars trek.
~ Futurama

[Tawmis]

No, that's the Thing:

Phil, you should know this!

Now that was funny!

[Tawmis]

That's the thing.
Take when Northstar & Aurora became elves rather than mutants.
How stupid was that?
How annoyed were we all?
Imagine that times hundreds of thousands.
That's what would happen if Marvel made every mutant an Inhuman.
Sales would drop.
Let's flip it:-
Sasquatch, Shaman, Snowbird are suddenly Inhumans or Mutants.
How would you all feel about that?

I don't think it's any crazier than DC rebooting their entire Universe (to the New 52). Sure there are plenty of upset fans, but they're in no danger financially, by any stretch of the imagination.

[Phil]

I don't think it's any crazier than DC rebooting their entire Universe (to the New 52). Sure there are plenty of upset fans, but they're in no danger financially, by any stretch of the imagination.

DC's reboot added titles though, it didn't cancel them...
Not having titles loses money...

[Tawmis]

DC's reboot added titles though, it didn't cancel them...
Not having titles loses money...

Oh! I am not arguing they'd ever cancel X-Men. (I thought that was clear from my previous posts?)

I am arguing that they could make a drastic change, like change them all to Inhumans.

Or something other than "mutants"...

Rest assured, I'd argue against anyone and everyone, if they said Marvel plans to cancel X-Men. That in itself, is a silly notion.

But I foresee a big change coming to the mutant world.

(And it's not because I am holding the Watcher's eye in my hand, I promise!)