Take a Point Give A Point Game to determine Alpha Talk Favorite Flight Member

[Phil]

EDIT: But... To be honest I can't remember when Witchfire was introduced... don't know if she was a part of Gamma Flight, with no background (because she didn't get any development until MUCH later)... but I don't know if she's a Byrne creation who was just a name, with no development till later... or if she was simply created later...?

EDIT2: Actually, she appears to be a Byrne creation too, since she shows her first appearance as Alpha Flight V1 #1.

She's definitely not in #1:

Marvel wiki says her first appearance was AF 79 which was when Gamma Flight got made Canadas team in Alphas abscene. And only two characters from that team, Wild Child and Diamond Lil, had any connection with previous Gamma Flights.

Let's not forget that the Marvel Wiki is unofficial and run by fans...
Her actual first appearance is #76.

[Yankee]

Aurora 14 points
Diamond Lil 9 points (+1)
Goblyn 4 points
Guardian (James MacDonald Hudson) 16 points
Madison Jeffries (AKA Box 2) 10 points
Marrina 13 points
Northstar 12 points
Pathway 3 points (-1)
Puck 15 points
Roger Bochs (aka Box 1) 8 points
Sasquatch 15 points
Shaman 14 points
Snowbird 14 points
St. Elmo 3 points
Talisman 13 points
Vindicator (Heather McNeil Hudson) 14 points
Witchfire 5 points
Windshear 8 point

[Tawmis]

Marvel wiki says her first appearance was AF 79 which was when Gamma Flight got made Canadas team in Alphas abscene. And only two characters from that team, Wild Child and Diamond Lil, had any connection with previous Gamma Flights.

That's what I was going to check when I got home...

She's definitely not in #1:




Let's not forget that the Marvel Wiki is unofficial and run by fans...
Her actual first appearance is #76.

And that's the image I was going to check - was wondering if she was in there and just "nameless" at the time - but Beta Flight is clearly Puck, Marinna, Box, and Flashback - and Gamma Flight is (two males I don't know?) and Diamond Lil and Wildchild.

[Tawmis]

Aurora 14 points
Diamond Lil 9 points
Goblyn 4 points
Guardian (James MacDonald Hudson) 16 points
Madison Jeffries (AKA Box 2) 10 points
Marrina 13 points
Northstar 12 points
Pathway 2 points (-1)
Puck 15 points
Roger Bochs (aka Box 1) 8 points
Sasquatch 15 points
Shaman 14 points
Snowbird 14 points
St. Elmo 3 points
Talisman 13 points
Vindicator (Heather McNeil Hudson) 14 points
Witchfire 6 points (+1)
Windshear 8 point

[Bill P]

[QUOTE
Witchfire 6 points (+1)
/QUOTE]

Looks like Witchfire may become a bit of a battle!!

[Yankee]

That's what I was going to check when I got home...




And that's the image I was going to check - was wondering if she was in there and just "nameless" at the time - but Beta Flight is clearly Puck, Marinna, Box, and Flashback - and Gamma Flight is (two males I don't know?) and Diamond Lil and Wildchild.

the two males are I believe supposed to be Smart Alec and Madison Jefferies. Because in the lead up to issue 12 smart Alec joined omega flight and and Madison Jefferies helped Bochs improve Box. Plus when Delphine Courtney reformed omega flight, he mentioned his past relationship with Diamiond Lil when they were in Gamma together

[Yankee]

[QUOTE
Witchfire 6 points (+1)
/QUOTE]

Looks like Witchfire may become a bit of a battle!!

If I can get Windshear into top 15 il be happy lol

[Le Messor]

10 men 9 women remain. I think it's a safe bet every character that will be in top ten will be a John Byrne creation.

If I have anything to say about it!

To be honest I can't remember when Witchfire was introduced... she shows her first appearance as Alpha Flight V1 #1.

Definitely not; much, much later. (See Yankee's comment, but she wasn't Byrne.)

Marvel wiki says her first appearance was AF 79 which was when Gamma Flight got made Canada's team in Alpha's absence. And only two characters from that team, Wild Child and Diamond Lil, had any connection with previous Gamma Flights.

Both of them Byrne characters who were first shown in v1 #1, then turned into actual characters later (both in #11, I believe).

The two males are I believe supposed to be Smart Alec and Madison Jeffries.

Correct! (And that's the image I was thinking of in my comment right before I quoted yours. )

~ Le Messor
"He continued to be an infant long after he ceased to be a prodigy."
~ Robert Moses

[Le Messor]

Aurora 14 points
Diamond Lil 9 points
Goblyn 3 points (-1)
Guardian (James MacDonald Hudson) 16 points
Madison Jeffries (AKA Box 2) 10 points
Marrina 14 points (+1)
Northstar 12 points
Pathway 2 points
Puck 15 points
Roger Bochs (aka Box 1) 8 points
Sasquatch 15 points
Shaman 14 points
Snowbird 14 points
St. Elmo 3 points
Talisman 13 points
Vindicator (Heather McNeil Hudson) 14 points
Witchfire 6 points
Windshear 8 points

[Tawmis]

the two males are I believe supposed to be Smart Alec and Madison Jefferies. Because in the lead up to issue 12 smart Alec joined omega flight and and Madison Jefferies helped Bochs improve Box. Plus when Delphine Courtney reformed omega flight, he mentioned his past relationship with Diamiond Lil when they were in Gamma together

Oh! Good call. Just not used to seeing Smart Alec without his "Leader" helmet as I call it.

[Tawmis]

[QUOTE
Witchfire 6 points (+1)
/QUOTE]

Looks like Witchfire may become a bit of a battle!!

I don't think there's enough people who like her, like I do.

I like her tie to Belasco - and I know a lot of people didn't like X-Infernus - but I really did. First, I thought it was pretty cool that they used Witchfire as a main villain - and made her VERY powerful and very "bad ass" (and respectable, as a villain!)... As someone who _loved_ Uncanny X-Men #160 - it's cool to see Belasco's legacy/story continue...

[Phil]

I really liked X-Infernus, and her in it.
But because of that I think of her as a villain mainly, so I doubt I'd vote for her here.

[Yankee]

I really liked X-Infernus, and her in it.
But because of that I think of her as a villain mainly, so I doubt I'd vote for her here.

That's why I attacked Smart Alec early on because he was mainly a villain. As for Witchfire I liked the arc they did where Manikin helped her tell her father to F off, and plus I found the drawings of her very attractive in said arc, but outside of that I'm not that invested in her. The Beta I was most into was Goblyn, but that was more for what she could have been instead of what she was. I found it a little bit insulting that somehow PathWay learned to speak, despite her form of autism being the kind where they actually have a lifelong mental misfire that makes them unable to speak, yet Goblyn who I remind you is indeed a human being who to my knowledge is not autistic never gets beyond barking like a dog. I can understand her not when when first meet her as she has spent most of her time in dream world, so she never had someone to teach her English, but you'd think after being in Department H for a while someone who have thought to try to teach her.

[Tawmis]

I really liked X-Infernus, and her in it.
But because of that I think of her as a villain mainly, so I doubt I'd vote for her here.

We never really saw her kill someone, though? (She did some evil, stuff, sure...)

But she never killed her own team mate... say, like Heather did. (Just kidding, Yankee!)

Yes, I don't expect Witchfire to last long, once it boils down. Because I think the main core members of Alpha who are left (Snowbird, Sasquatch, Shaman, etc) will probably be where the real battle is at.

[Le Messor]

yet Goblyn who I remind you is indeed a human being who to my knowledge is not autistic never gets beyond barking like a dog.

Apparently, after a certain age, it's very difficult to teach people to speak. If you can, they don't do it well.
In our universe. In Marvel?
I always wanted a story where they take her to Charles Xavier for about five minutes, and she can speak five languages fluently from then on.

~ Le Messor
"God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board."
~ Mark Twain