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    Quote Originally Posted by Legerd View Post
    In Spider-man's book the Kingpin is a villain who the hero faces now and again, but in Daredevil's book he is the hero's arch-enemy, the very personification of the corruption he is fighting against.
    Is he though? Daredevil had never fought Kingpin until 1981's #170.

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    Okay, so lets say that Marvel can't not use off of the members of AF that first appeared in the Uncanny X-men until Marvel sold the rights of the X-men, what AF characters does that leave that can be used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekko Hotvle View Post
    Okay, so lets say that Marvel can't use members of AF that first appeared in the Uncanny X-men... what AF characters does that leave that can be used?
    Puck, Marrina, Talisman, Box (both Roger and Madison), Diamond Lil, Wild Child, and anybody post-Byrne.
    Some of those are mutants, though, and would have their origins changed.

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    Aren't all the live-action rights tied up together? In somebody's basement?
    Okay, maybe not the latter, but doesn't not having the movie rights also mean not having the live-action TV series rights?
    That's my vague understanding, but I haven't looked into this enough to be sure.

    I also think The New Warriors and Cloak and Dagger would make great additions to MCU. Runaways, of course, Darkhawk... Probably a few adults, as well.

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    Whoever has one has the other.

    We just still don't know who that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Is he though? Daredevil had never fought Kingpin until 1981's #170.
    Perhaps, but thirty years later you ask people who Daredevil's main nemesis is and they'd tell you the Kingpin. He has become so strongly associated with Daredevil at this point who would think it hasn't always been this way right from the start.

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    Whoever has one has the other.

    We just still don't know who that is.
    Not necessarily. The TV rights can be sold separately from the movie rights as well as the animated rights, but a producer will usually buy them all up at the same time. That being said, according to this article, Sony hasn't owned the TV rights to Spider-man since 2009, and this article leaves it up in the air as to where the TV rights to the X-men lay though I would put my money on Fox. However, according to this article, the animated rights to the X-men still lie with Marvel. This is why Marvel can produce straight-to-DVD movies using X-men characters without Fox being able to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legerd View Post
    Perhaps, but thirty years later you ask people who Daredevil's main nemesis is and they'd tell you the Kingpin. He has become so strongly associated with Daredevil at this point who would think it hasn't always been this way right from the start.
    Oh, don't get me wrong - I totally agree with you that Kingpin is more of a Daredevil villain than a Spider-Man villain nowadays (possibly because Norman Osborn & Kingpin are very alike), but there is a large generation of comic fans who will always remember Kingpin as a Spider-Man villain first and foremost. And I'd argue that Bullseye is DD's main nemesis over Kingpin.


    Not necessarily. The TV rights can be sold separately from the movie rights as well as the animated rights, but a producer will usually buy them all up at the same time. That being said, according to this article, Sony hasn't owned the TV rights to Spider-man since 2009, and this article leaves it up in the air as to where the TV rights to the X-men lay though I would put my money on Fox. However, according to this article, the animated rights to the X-men still lie with Marvel. This is why Marvel can produce straight-to-DVD movies using X-men characters without Fox being able to do anything.
    It's a legal quagmire but I'd take all of those articles with a pinch of salt, especially the Bleeding Cool one. No-one knows exactly what the state is bar the lawyers. There probably isn't a definitive answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Oh, don't get me wrong - I totally agree with you that Kingpin is more of a Daredevil villain than a Spider-Man villain nowadays (possibly because Norman Osborn & Kingpin are very alike), but there is a large generation of comic fans who will always remember Kingpin as a Spider-Man villain first and foremost. And I'd argue that Bullseye is DD's main nemesis over Kingpin.
    You are probably correct about Bullseye, I was only arguing this as a case for why the Kingpin would be considered more of a DD character rather than a Spidey one.

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    It's a legal quagmire but I'd take all of those articles with a pinch of salt, especially the Bleeding Cool one. No-one knows exactly what the state is bar the lawyers. There probably isn't a definitive answer.
    Normally I would agree about Bleeding Cool, but reality seems to bear the article out. If Marvel didn't own the animated rights to the X-men then I don't think any of the X-men cartoons, Wolverine cartoons, or the Hulk Vs animated feature, that had Wolverine and other X-men villains in it, could have been made. Fox would have kiboshed any such production, or, more likely, Marvel just never would have tried.
    This is why I have hope that an animated AF show/movie could one day exist.

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    I corrected my previous post to show that I was meaning Kevin Smith. I like the job he did writing for the first 12 issues of The Green Hornet.
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    Boards been quiet so thought I would ask a question about the movie....Who would you want to direct it? (I can only assume no one says Kevin Smith but he loves Canada).

    How would you feel if he (Kevin Smith) was to write a Alpha Flight series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekko Hotvle View Post
    Who would you want to direct it? (I can only assume no one says Kevin Smith but he loves Canada).
    Whedon.
    No question for me.
    (Though other people could do it, and do it well.)

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    How would you feel if it was to write a Alpha Flight series?
    Uh... Do you mean if Kevin Smith did?
    I'd read the first few issues, then be incredibly likely to drop the title like a hot rocks polka. He'd have to really surprise me with those first few issues to get me to keep reading.

    Then again, I guess I've never read his comics, so I can't really back that up.

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    That's what I thought.

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    I've always known animation rights and live-action rights were separate; I just wasn't sure about live-action movie and live-action TV.
    Thanks, Legerd.

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    Possibly, but the original point was the TV rights which Fox definitely has, as evidenced by the whole Mutant X debacle a decade or so ago.

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